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This sort of makes the LEICA S2 irrelevant. The LEICA S2 has no RealRaw capability, limited resolution (not even 40MP), a horribly outdated amateur 3:2 aspect ratio, and a small sensor barely bigger than 35mm.

The S2's sensor is only 30 x 45mm, not 40.4 x 53.9mm like the Phase One P65+ sensor. The widest lens for the S2 is the 35mm, while the Contax 645 system offers a 35mm lens. A 35mm lens on Leica's smaller S2 sensor is equivalent only to a 45mm lens on the Contax 645.

The Contax 645 system offers an exotic Zeiss 350mm f/4; the longest for the S2 is only 180mm today.

The Contax 645 system sells for much less and is much easier to find than the S2 system. The S2 is new, expensive and not in stock. You can get anything you want for the Contax 645 used at this link to it at eBay, and most of it is still like new. If you're new to the Contax 645, you can find plenty of used kits with the body, finder, back, film insert, 80/2 lens and etc for about $1,400 still in their boxes, complete and ready to shoot. A beater kit with the 80mm will sell for about $999, at least over eBay. The 45mm and 140mm lenses usually go for about $650 each, bargains for autofocus Zeiss lenses.

The Contax 645 system is modular. When the Phase One digital back goes obsolete, throw it out and shoot RealRaw, or get the newest back.

The LEICA S2 is not modular. The prism, shutter body and digital sensor are all one piece. When the S2 gets digital rot, the entire S2 camera has to be thrown out just like any other DSLR. These sections are all modular on the Contax 645; if a back goes obsolete, just replace it.

The LEICA S2 lenses sell for $5,300 - $7,500 each. Contax 645 lenses sell (used) for a few hundred dollars (the 80mm f/2) to no more than $5,500 for the exotic Zeiss 350mm f/4. The S2's 35mm lens will set you back $6,000 if it ever ships, while you can get the Zeiss 35mm for the Contax for around $1,500.

Are the Leica lenses better than Zeiss, giving the S2 the same advantage the 18MP M9 has over 24MP DSLRs? I doubt it. My tests of other Leica-vs-Zeiss lenses for the same application has proven the Zeiss to be as good or better optically than Leica for a lot less money. (Rangefinder and 4x5 lenses are better than SLR lenses, but that's another day's story.)

I'll stick with an M9 over the S2. Of course when I get to play with an S2 I'll probably have a different opinion. Then again, I see no aperture ring on the S2. How am I supposed to shoot if I have to hold a button to change the aperture? That would not be LEICA. I see no shooting mode or aperture dials on the S2; the Contax 645 has dedicated controls for everything. The S2 lacks depth-of-field scales; the Contax 645 has them for precise control.

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superlative

btw.. itu tulisan review yang nginggris pengalaman TS sendiri yah? wuihh..!

hebaaaaat.. punya S2, M9, Contax..


oiya lupa.. sama lensa superlative

Klw yang ini harus nunggu berapa taon belinya....

@DBI :

@ TS : Ini pengalaman pribadi?
bisa dikasih contoh foto masing-masing.. untuk perbandingan?
Hasil fotonya yah.. bukan foto kameranya..

Ulasan yang superlative

ONE WORD: SUPERLATIVE!

@dbi : wewewedotnulisgraferdotkom

btw tertarik kalo ada contohnya dong....

professional yang mana yang ninggalin d3x? mereka pindah ke D3s kali yah? kalo iyah mau dong dikasih bekasnya

btw itu leica dan lensa teman2nya bukannya kamera untuk orang berduit yah?

kalo 80% proffesional di sport dan jurnalistik mungkin mikir-mikir pake systemnya leica. soalnya kalo dah waktunya ganti saynag di buang sedangkan kalo pake merek jepang kalo udah tua lebih nggak miris kalo mau di singkirkan.
andaikata punya duit???~~~~

bakal dihapus lagi ndak yah thread ini

@ TS : mana hasil foto dari S2 dan Phase One?

kalau beli lensa superlative aja nunggunya 18 tahun, saya yakin Anda butuh 1 milenium kalau beli Leica & Phase One ....

bakalan seru nih topik..

Camera Superlative....sejak berapa tahun yang lalukah nunggu Leica S2 ini..?

copy paste.......

....body S2 yang gedenya segede kepala orang, berat, non auto focus, technology berkembang ke gadgets yang lebih kecil ringan dll...

dimension : 160 x 120 x 81 mm (6.3 x 4.7 x 3.2 in)
The autofocus developed by Leica for the S2 is based on a centrally positioned cross-hair sensor for high precision focusing. Each S lens has its own Leica-designed microprocessor for precise autofocus and iris diaphragm control. The integrated focusing drive is a proprietary Leica design that features silent gearing. All S lenses have a generous focus ring with just the right amount of drag, letting the photographer override the autofocus at any time.

repot juga..
bawa kamera kecil..dibilang "kamera kok ndak serius bla bla bla.."
teknologi ndak di upgrade..dibilang ketinggalan jaman.